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Henry Wilson DSc  
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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 03:53
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De: HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc).
Fecha: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:57 GMT
Local: Sáb 21 nov 2009 03:53
Asunto: How much more proof does one need?
Einstein's second postulate is clearly wrong.

Here is another typical 'cepheid' brightness curve, easily matched with a BaTh
simulation.

The apparent brightness variation is caused by changes in the emitted light's
speed towards Earth as the star orbits it barycentre with a large planet.

Just about ALL 'cepheid' curves can be explained in this way. 'Cepheids' are
not pulsating stars at all. When are astronomers going to wake up and stop
making complete fools of themselves.

Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm

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Henry Wilson DSc  
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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 04:01
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De: HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc).
Fecha: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:01:53 GMT
Local: Sáb 21 nov 2009 04:01
Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:57 GMT, HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc). wrote:

Sorry, here's the website:
www.scisite.info/R Cru2.jpg

Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm

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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 05:39
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De: "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q>
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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?

"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW@..> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:57 GMT, HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc). wrote:
> Sorry, here's the website:
> www.scisite.info/R Cru2.jpg

> Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm

>       Einstein...World's greatest SciFi writer..

There you are, you old bugger. When you didn't show for a
couple of days I was getting worried about ya.
If you want to space in a URL you need "%20", like this:
  www.scisite.info/R%20Cru2.jpg

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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?
Henry Wilson DSc . <HW@..> wrote in message
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> Einstein's second postulate is clearly wrong.

Wilson's degrees are clearly forged:
   http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/ForgedDegree.html
   http://mysite.verizon.net/cephalobus_alienus/henri/diploma.htm

Dirk Vdm


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eric gisse  
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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 12:22
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De: eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...@gmail.com>
Fecha: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:22:59 -0800
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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?

HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc). wrote:
> Einstein's second postulate is clearly wrong.

> Here is another typical 'cepheid' brightness curve, easily matched with a
> BaTh simulation.

> The apparent brightness variation is caused by changes in the emitted
> light's speed towards Earth as the star orbits it barycentre with a large
> planet.

Cephids aren't planetary systems.

> Just about ALL 'cepheid' curves can be explained in this way. 'Cepheids'
> are not pulsating stars at all. When are astronomers going to wake up and
> stop making complete fools of themselves.

Around the time you post under your real name.


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Henry Wilson DSc  
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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 15:42
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De: HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc).
Fecha: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:42:23 GMT
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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:39:14 -0000, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q>
wrote:

OK Try this: http://www.scisite.info/r_cru.jpg

Pretty convincing, eh?

Note, 'velocity' is true radial velocity towards Earth. It includes pitch. I
haven't bothered to set either distance or velocity at any measured value
because I cannot find reliable figures. Hipparcos and Tycho give different
values for parallax. 1.9 and 3.1 mas respectively. However, the product
(distance x velocity) is the important factor. Reducing one by a particular
factor and increasing the other by the same amount produces the same curve, as
you should know.

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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 16:04
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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?
On Nov 21, 12:42 pm, HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc). wrote:

The speed of light is a constant until inside the atom.

Mitch Raemsch


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Henry Wilson DSc  
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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 16:40
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De: HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc).
Fecha: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:40:02 GMT
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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?

...idiot..

>Mitch Raemsch

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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 19:16
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Fecha: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:16:45 +1100
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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?
"Henry Wilson DSc." <HW@..> wrote in message
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> Einstein's second postulate is clearly wrong.

Except all experimental evidence supports it being correct

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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 19:31
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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?
"Henry Wilson DSc." <HW@..> wrote in message
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> Pretty convincing, eh?

Nothing a known liar such as yourself posts would be convincing

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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 19:51
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Fecha: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:51:07 GMT
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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?
On 2009-11-21, HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc). <HW@> wrote:

> Note, 'velocity' is true radial velocity towards Earth. It includes pitch. I
> haven't bothered to set either distance or velocity at any measured value
> because I cannot find reliable figures. Hipparcos and Tycho give different
> values for parallax. 1.9 and 3.1 mas respectively.

I usually ignore "Henry"'s blathering, but this note somehow made it
past my kill filter. Henry is talking out his ass again, the Tycho
catalog does not include parallax.

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Androcles  
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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 19:39
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De: "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q>
Fecha: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:39:47 -0000
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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?

"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW@..> wrote in message
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Not bad. Now do it with 100 points as I did.
  http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Lightcurve.xls

Eccentricity .25
Yaw angle 82
Pitch angle 0
Distance 280
Phase 1
Sample 0

> Note, 'velocity' is true radial velocity towards Earth. It includes pitch.
> I
> haven't bothered to set either distance or velocity at any measured value
> because I cannot find reliable figures.

EXACTLY!
Distance is the Holy Grail of Astronomy, that's why Hipparcos
and Tycho were launched.

> Hipparcos and Tycho give different
> values for parallax. 1.9 and 3.1 mas respectively. However, the product
> (distance x velocity) is the important factor. Reducing one by a
> particular
> factor and increasing the other by the same amount produces the same
> curve, as
> you should know.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hipparcos-accuracies.gif

I have a question, though.
Why does your program refer to more than one star?
A cepheid is a star and a planet, not a double star.


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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 20:13
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De: "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q>
Fecha: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:13:58 -0000
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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?

"Greg Hennessy" <greg.henne...@cox.net> wrote in message

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> On 2009-11-21, HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc). <HW@> wrote:
>> Note, 'velocity' is true radial velocity towards Earth. It includes
>> pitch. I
>> haven't bothered to set either distance or velocity at any measured value
>> because I cannot find reliable figures. Hipparcos and Tycho give
>> different
>> values for parallax. 1.9 and 3.1 mas respectively.

> I usually ignore "Henry"'s blathering, but this note somehow made it
> past my kill filter. Henry is talking out his ass again, the Tycho
> catalog does not include parallax.

   http://tdc-www.harvard.edu/catalogs/tycho2.html
The Tycho-2 positions and magnitudes are based on precisely the same
observations as the Tycho-1 Catalogue (ESA SP-1200, 1997) collected by the
star mapper of the ESA Hipparcos satellite, but Tycho-2 is much bigger and
slightly more precise, owing to a more advanced reduction technique.

I shall ignore Hennessy's farting, he has his head up his arse.

*plonk*

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Henry Wilson DSc  
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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 22:47
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De: HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc).
Fecha: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:47:07 GMT
Local: Sáb 21 nov 2009 22:47
Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:51:07 GMT, Greg Hennessy <greg.henne...@cox.net> wrote:
>On 2009-11-21, HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc). <HW@> wrote:
>> Note, 'velocity' is true radial velocity towards Earth. It includes pitch. I
>> haven't bothered to set either distance or velocity at any measured value
>> because I cannot find reliable figures. Hipparcos and Tycho give different
>> values for parallax. 1.9 and 3.1 mas respectively.

>I usually ignore "Henry"'s blathering, but this note somehow made it
>past my kill filter. Henry is talking out his ass again, the Tycho
>catalog does not include parallax.

What is this then?

http://www.rssd.esa.int/hipparcos_scripts/HIPcatalogueSearch.pl
Catogue T(ycho),  parallax = 3.1

Here's the Hipparcos one:
http://www.rssd.esa.int/hipparcos_scripts/HIPcatalogueSearch.pl

trig parallx = 1.97

So who is the dickhead now?

Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm

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Henry Wilson DSc  
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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 23:02
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De: HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc).
Fecha: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:02:46 GMT
Local: Sáb 21 nov 2009 23:02
Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:16:45 +1100, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
>"Henry Wilson DSc." <HW@..> wrote in message
>news:o3afg5p8b70hcj1oaqr0rs5encauipqm7v@4ax.com...
>> Einstein's second postulate is clearly wrong.

>Except all experimental evidence supports it being correct

Hey dopey, until now there hasn't been any evidence one way or the other.

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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?
"Henry Wilson DSc." <HW@..> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:16:45 +1100, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com>
> wrote:

>>"Henry Wilson DSc." <HW@..> wrote in message
>>news:o3afg5p8b70hcj1oaqr0rs5encauipqm7v@4ax.com...
>>> Einstein's second postulate is clearly wrong.

>>Except all experimental evidence supports it being correct

> Hey dopey, until now there hasn't been any evidence one way or the other.

Wrong

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De: "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q>
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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?

"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW@..> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:16:45 +1100, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com>
> wrote:

>>"Henry Wilson DSc." <HW@..> wrote in message
>>news:o3afg5p8b70hcj1oaqr0rs5encauipqm7v@4ax.com...
>>> Einstein's second postulate is clearly wrong.

>>Except all experimental evidence supports it being correct

> Hey dopey, until now there hasn't been any evidence one way or the other.

Einstein's third postulate is clearly wrong.

   http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Shapiro/Crapiro.htm

Getting 1 out 3 right isn't the pass mark, and it was Galileo's anyway.
Why do you bother with fuckwits?


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Hennessy is the dickhead with his cock up his own arse.

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"Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q> wrote in message

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> "Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW@..> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:16:45 +1100, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com>
>> wrote:

>>>"Henry Wilson DSc." <HW@..> wrote in message
>>>news:o3afg5p8b70hcj1oaqr0rs5encauipqm7v@4ax.com...
>>>> Einstein's second postulate is clearly wrong.

>>>Except all experimental evidence supports it being correct

>> Hey dopey, until now there hasn't been any evidence one way or the other.

> Einstein's third postulate is clearly wrong.

Of course, there is no third postulate

That doesn't show anything wrong apart from you

> Getting 1 out 3 right isn't the pass mark, and it was Galileo's anyway.
> Why do you bother with fuckwits?

Because you are entertaining.

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BradGuth  
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De: BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
Fecha: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:23:18 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 22 nov 2009 01:23
Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?
On Nov 21, 1:04 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Photons or quantum strings if you like can not coexist inside the
atom.

 ~ BG


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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?
On Nov 21, 8:02 pm, HW@..(Henry Wilson DSc). wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:16:45 +1100, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com> wrote:
> >"Henry Wilson DSc." <HW@..> wrote in message
> >news:o3afg5p8b70hcj1oaqr0rs5encauipqm7v@4ax.com...
> >> Einstein's second postulate is clearly wrong.

> >Except all experimental evidence supports it being correct

> Hey dopey, until now there hasn't been any evidence one way or the other.

> Henry Wilson...www.scisite.info/index.htm

>        Einstein...World's greatest SciFi writer..

subjective = objective  (it's the mainstream new math = cosmology
that's politically and faith-based correct)

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Henry Wilson DSc  
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 Más opciones 22 nov 2009, 05:31
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:20:37 -0000, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q>
wrote:

>"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW@..> wrote in message
>news:atdhg514lb7kne2ul10va4e7n3kdr6qtop@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:16:45 +1100, "Inertial" <relativ...@rest.com>
>> wrote:

>>>"Henry Wilson DSc." <HW@..> wrote in message
>>>news:o3afg5p8b70hcj1oaqr0rs5encauipqm7v@4ax.com...
>>>> Einstein's second postulate is clearly wrong.

>>>Except all experimental evidence supports it being correct

>> Hey dopey, until now there hasn't been any evidence one way or the other.

>Einstein's third postulate is clearly wrong.

So was his second.

yes, not bad

>Getting 1 out 3 right isn't the pass mark, and it was Galileo's anyway.
>Why do you bother with fuckwits?

It gives me an ego boost to see how dopey they are.

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"Henry Wilson DSc." <HW@..> wrote in message
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Seeing you're a total moron and a liar, you could use as much boosting as
you can get.  Though how being continually shown that you are wrong boost
your ego is anyone's guess.  But then, you are a moron.

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Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?

"Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW@..> wrote in message
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You once argued Einstein was correct, the ``time'' required by light to
travel from A to B equals the ``time'' it requires to travel from B to A.

It gives me an ego boost to rub your nose in it, dopey.
(Not really -- I don't have your ego, Henry Wilson 'D'opey 'Sc'um. )
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 Más opciones 22 nov 2009, 08:34
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Fecha: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:34:43 +1100
Local: Dom 22 nov 2009 08:34
Asunto: Re: How much more proof does one need?
"Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q> wrote in message

news:GMaOm.21254$2E.21@newsfe20.ams2...

As the second postulate says the speed from A to B is the same as the speed
from B to A, and as the distance is the same for two fixed points, then it
must be the same time.

You've never shown it to be otherwise .. and you can't.

Even ballistic theory says that light travelling from A to B and B to A will
behave that way (if A is the source) and you get the same time taken.

> It gives me an ego boost to rub your nose in it, dopey.

So .. Ralph was correct once upon a time.  Must have been a fluke :)

> (Not really -- I don't have your ego, Henry Wilson 'D'opey 'Sc'um. )
>  "Henry Wilson DSc ." <HW@..>

Oh .. I think you do.

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