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Archimedes Plutonium  
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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 00:30
Grupos de noticias: sci.physics, sci.math, sci.astro
De: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archime...@gmail.com>
Fecha: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:30:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 21 nov 2009 00:30
Asunto: deuterium in Comets as proof of a 10 billion year old Earth? #183 Atom Totality Theory
I wrote last night:

> New information: In the above I have a conundrum to
> solve. The conundrum is why would Dirac
> Radioactivities create more
> heavy water in water of the
> Comets rather than in water elsewhere in the Solar
> System? In other
> words, why is Dirac Radioactivities
> increasing the nuclear content of water in Comets? I
> have to have some
> mechanism as to why Dirac
> Radioactivities makes Comet water special. I do not
> have that mechanism.

CellWell1 is Sun and inner planets which is alleged
to be 10 billion years old.

CellWell2 is the outer planets such as Jupiter and Saturn and its
satellites

So I need to explain why there is more heavy water
in Comets than Earth's ocean water.

Could it be that Dirac Radioactivities creates heavy
water at the same rate whether on Earth or Jupiter
or a Comet and that only because of the age differences that such a
density of heavy water wanes
through time? If so, then heavy water is a proof of the
Sun and Earth as 10 billion years old.

So in this explanation, Dirac Radioactivities when it creates water
molecules, it forms heavy water in the proportion that we observe on
Comets. And Comets
are part of CellWell2 of a younger age than Earth as
5 billion years. So that after 5 billion years in a 10 billion years
old Earth, that the heavy water density
shrinks to what we observe on Earth.

So is there a 2 to 1 ratio deuterium density between
Earth and Comets?

--- quoting from http://www.americanscientist.org/template/AssetDetail/assetid/14384/p...

Earthly seawater contains 160 ppm of deuterium, an enrichment of eight
times relative to the deuterium in the solar nebula. So we would
expect the comets to
be similarly enriched, no?

No. As it happens, the water in the three bright comets-Halley,
Hyakutake and Hale-Bopp-that recently swung past the Earth averaged
about 320 ppm deuterium, an enrichment of 16 times over the deuterium
in the solar nebula, and twice that found in seawater! How do we
account for these differences?
--- end quoting that website ---

I still need to look up what the Europa deuterium density is.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies


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Yousuf Khan  
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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 01:25
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De: Yousuf Khan <bbb...@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Fecha: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:25:20 -0500
Local: Sáb 21 nov 2009 01:25
Asunto: Re: deuterium in Comets as proof of a 10 billion year old Earth? #183 Atom Totality Theory

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> CellWell1 is Sun and inner planets which is alleged
> to be 10 billion years old.

> CellWell2 is the outer planets such as Jupiter and Saturn and its
> satellites

> So I need to explain why there is more heavy water
> in Comets than Earth's ocean water.

What does Deuterium have to do with getting the age of the Solar System?
Deuterium is as stable as regular Hydrogen, there's no radioactive decay
here.

        Yousuf Khan


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Archimedes Plutonium  
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 Más opciones 21 nov 2009, 23:00
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De: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archime...@gmail.com>
Fecha: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:00:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 21 nov 2009 23:00
Asunto: Re: deuterium in Comets as proof of a 10 billion year old Earth? #184 Atom Totality Theory

Good question, and a complex answer. I may not have the answer tonight
but
should after some thought.

So let us picture Dirac Radioactivities as creating all matter. It
emits from the Nucleus
of the Atom Totality and we observe it as cosmic rays-- nuclei or
protons and as
cosmic gamma rays and all their descendent transmutations of
particles.

So as we have say protoEarth some 10 billion years ago as a dot-seed
and where
cosmic rays or gamma rays accumulate around this dot-seed slowly
amassing more
proton, neutrons, electrons of elements and compounds. And suppose for
5 billion years
of Earth's steady accrection of Dirac matter that the ratio of
deuterium to normal water
is 320 ppm deuterium overall average. But then for the next 5 billion
years of Dirac
accretion of matter, for some reason the differential rate of Dirac
new matter makes
the ratio of normal water with deuterium overall decrease to that of
160 ppm.

That is about the best I can do at this moment. And I am making a
longshot bet, that
the observed measure of deuterium to normal water on Europa or Io or
Pluto or
any of the bodies beyond Pluto will come in at the 320 ppm ratio. I
have searched
high and hard for information on deuterium for the gas-giant's-
satellites and there
seems to be no information on that deuterium ratio. Perhaps the
obstacle with the
outer planets and their satellites is that gaseous water is observed
but no actual
pools of water such as in a comet. I am obviously not privy to the
details of measuring
deuterium in comets versus Io or Europa or Jupiter or Saturn. My guess
is that
if it were measurable and comparable the data would say 320 ppm
matching that of
Comets.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies


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De: Yousuf Khan <bbb...@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Fecha: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:20:31 -0500
Local: Jue 26 nov 2009 02:20
Asunto: Re: deuterium in Comets as proof of a 10 billion year old Earth? #184 Atom Totality Theory

And so why are you changing the subject?

        Yousuf Khan


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