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DD_BobK wrote: > On Nov 4, 2:24 pm, bud-- <remove.budn...@isp.com> wrote: >> DD_BobK wrote: >>>> The only newsreader that leaves this garbage is your retarded google >>>> one. The garbage is just more noise, even to the people that use >>>> google-groups. Editing is too difficult a concept? >>>>> far better to install a ground wire. >>>>> its not a killer expense >>>> Using your Ouija board again? >>>> You have no idea how difficult it will be to add a ground wire. >>>> And it has not been code compliant for many years to attach it to a >>>> water pipe, except for the first 5 feet of pipe inside the building. >>>> -- >>>> bud-- >>> And the reason your previously posted replies contained lots of >>> "quoted text" that you failed to "edit" ...might be? >>> Editing is too difficult a concept? >> Could be equally applied to hallerb.
>> On the other had you cleverly edited out the context for my reply and >> left parts that are not relevant. >> Editing is too difficult a concept?
>> In any case, at least leaving "too much" gives the context for how the >> thread got where it is.
>> The relics inserted by the google "newsreader" are garbage. They are >> 100% noise. When I use google I carefully edit them out.
>> -- >> bud--
> Sorry my editing didn't meet your specs....too little, too much, too > selective........ too bad
> In the future, I'll continue to post the way I want to post...welcome > to the internet.
> If you need help using navigation means on your computer maybe > someone can help you out.
> Don't like a post...here's a tip.....ignore, don't read it.
All of which applies to your post a couple back. If you followed you own advice you wouldn't have made it.
> DD_BobK wrote: > > On Nov 4, 2:24 pm, bud-- <remove.budn...@isp.com> wrote: > >> DD_BobK wrote: > >>>> The only newsreader that leaves this garbage is your retarded google > >>>> one. The garbage is just more noise, even to the people that use > >>>> google-groups. Editing is too difficult a concept? > >>>>> far better to install a ground wire. > >>>>> its not a killer expense > >>>> Using your Ouija board again? > >>>> You have no idea how difficult it will be to add a ground wire. > >>>> And it has not been code compliant for many years to attach it to a > >>>> water pipe, except for the first 5 feet of pipe inside the building. > >>>> -- > >>>> bud-- > >>> And the reason your previously posted replies contained lots of > >>> "quoted text" that you failed to "edit" ...might be? > >>> Editing is too difficult a concept? > >> Could be equally applied to hallerb.
> >> On the other had you cleverly edited out the context for my reply and > >> left parts that are not relevant. > >> Editing is too difficult a concept?
> >> In any case, at least leaving "too much" gives the context for how the > >> thread got where it is.
> >> The relics inserted by the google "newsreader" are garbage. They are > >> 100% noise. When I use google I carefully edit them out.
> >> -- > >> bud--
> > Sorry my editing didn't meet your specs....too little, too much, too > > selective........ too bad
> > In the future, I'll continue to post the way I want to post...welcome > > to the internet.
> > If you need help using navigation means on your computer maybe > > someone can help you out.
> > Don't like a post...here's a tip.....ignore, don't read it.
> All of which applies to your post a couple back. If you followed you own > advice you wouldn't have made it.
> -- > bud--
No ...not exactly.
I don't "not like" your posts........I find them ridiculously entertaining, keep them coming. :)
It's interesting to see how some people's brains work.
> DD_BobK wrote: > > On Nov 4, 2:24 pm, bud-- <remove.budn...@isp.com> wrote: > >> DD_BobK wrote: > >>>> The only newsreader that leaves this garbage is your retarded google > >>>> one. The garbage is just more noise, even to the people that use > >>>> google-groups. Editing is too difficult a concept? > >>>>> far better to install a ground wire. > >>>>> its not a killer expense > >>>> Using your Ouija board again? > >>>> You have no idea how difficult it will be to add a ground wire. > >>>> And it has not been code compliant for many years to attach it to a > >>>> water pipe, except for the first 5 feet of pipe inside the building. > >>>> -- > >>>> bud-- > >>> And the reason your previously posted replies contained lots of > >>> "quoted text" that you failed to "edit" ...might be? > >>> Editing is too difficult a concept? > >> Could be equally applied to hallerb.
> >> On the other had you cleverly edited out the context for my reply and > >> left parts that are not relevant. > >> Editing is too difficult a concept?
> >> In any case, at least leaving "too much" gives the context for how the > >> thread got where it is.
> >> The relics inserted by the google "newsreader" are garbage. They are > >> 100% noise. When I use google I carefully edit them out.
> >> -- > >> bud--
> > Sorry my editing didn't meet your specs....too little, too much, too > > selective........ too bad
> > In the future, I'll continue to post the way I want to post...welcome > > to the internet.
> > If you need help using navigation means on your computer maybe > > someone can help you out.
> > Don't like a post...here's a tip.....ignore, don't read it.
> All of which applies to your post a couple back. If you followed you own > advice you wouldn't have made it.
> -- > bud--
No ...not exactly.
I don't "not like" your posts........I find them ridiculously entertaining, keep them coming. :)
It's interesting to see how some people's brains work.
cheers Bob
Dude, not to be argumentative, but you've got issues
>> paint, and have a new vanity installed. There is currently a two prong >> outlet near the sink in the hall bath. I saw a couple of sites online >> that says these can be GFI'd, but that they won't have an equipment >> ground (whatever that is).
> FWIW, so far no-one seems to have mentioned this but the two prongs > doesn't necessarily mean that the ground wire is missing....a lot of > older bathrooms had a two pronged razor outlet installed which used a > step-down transformer to lower the line voltage to a lower value (can't > recall the exact amount off hand). The cover plates for these units were > quite a bit larger than regular outlet cover plates....also curling > irons plugged into these outlets didn't work due to the reduced voltage.
> This may or may not apply in your case but you should be able to easily > check to see if there is proper grounding to the box.
Follow-up - the electrician put in the GFCI last week for $110. (Yeah I know, the labor was $95 but hey it's not something I can do). Invoice reads "changed existing outlet to GFI and hooked up ground". So maybe it was there all along. BTW, no worry about the home inspector; the buyer put this on their laundry list as a result of the completed inspection. And the inspector just put on there "recommend installing GFCI". The buyer is a young woman coming from an apartment, so is probably used to a GFCI outlet being the norm. Oh well, the things she asked for (vs things she could have) cost less than what the mortgage payments would be until next spring, which is when I'd realistically expect another offer. Thanks for the replies.
> >> paint, and have a new vanity installed. There is currently a two prong > >> outlet near the sink in the hall bath. I saw a couple of sites online > >> that says these can be GFI'd, but that they won't have an equipment > >> ground (whatever that is).
> > FWIW, so far no-one seems to have mentioned this but the two prongs > > doesn't necessarily mean that the ground wire is missing....a lot of > > older bathrooms had a two pronged razor outlet installed which used a > > step-down transformer to lower the line voltage to a lower value (can't > > recall the exact amount off hand). The cover plates for these units were > > quite a bit larger than regular outlet cover plates....also curling > > irons plugged into these outlets didn't work due to the reduced voltage.
> > This may or may not apply in your case but you should be able to easily > > check to see if there is proper grounding to the box.
> Follow-up - the electrician put in the GFCI last week for $110. (Yeah I > know, the labor was $95 but hey it's not something I can do). Invoice > reads "changed existing outlet to GFI and hooked up ground". So maybe it > was there all along. BTW, no worry about the home inspector; the buyer > put this on their laundry list as a result of the completed inspection. > And the inspector just put on there "recommend installing GFCI". The > buyer is a young woman coming from an apartment, so is probably used to > a GFCI outlet being the norm. Oh well, the things she asked for (vs > things she could have) cost less than what the mortgage payments would > be until next spring, which is when I'd realistically expect another > offer. Thanks for the replies.- Hide quoted text -
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re :(Yeah I know, the labor was $95 but hey it's not something I can do)
> Here's a little secret: If you learn how to do stuff like this for > yourself, you'll save so much money it's as if you got a HUGE raise at > work.
> Next time you are about to hire someone to do something that you don't > think you can do yourself, try this... Go to google.com and search for > help. If you had searched for: "replacing an outlet", you would have > found many DIY websites with detailed instructions, diagrams and > photos of how to replace an outlet. It is extremely easy to do.
The key might be "and hooked up ground." That's not always easy to do with old wiring (he may have needed to run a ground wire back to the fusebox.) Also the old box may have been too small or too full of wires for a GFCI device to fit. (or maybe it was a simple 5 minute job)
My problem is I know I can do anything myself (eventually) and I underestimate all the complications I'll run into :-)
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