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Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and keep encouraging her to buy a new one.
This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor life.
She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 range for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business.
So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field winding tested continuous.
Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining the damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at Radio Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing to relatively good health.
I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
Smitty Two wrote: > Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've > fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and keep > encouraging her to buy a new one.
> This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A > little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, > confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and > stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor life.
> She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 range > for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business.
> So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field > winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would > account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped > splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery > revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field winding > tested continuous.
> Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining the > damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at Radio > Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing to > relatively good health.
> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot > simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
It's feels good when things work out like that, isn't it?
My experience isn that those little thermal fuses can fail from "old age" without actually ever being heated to their "melting point".
Jeff
-- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.
Smitty Two wrote: > Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've > fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and keep > encouraging her to buy a new one.
> This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A > little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, > confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and > stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor life.
> She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 range > for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business.
> So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field > winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would > account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped > splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery > revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field winding > tested continuous.
> Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining the > damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at Radio > Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing to > relatively good health.
> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot > simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
Smitty Two wrote: > Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've > fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and > keep encouraging her to buy a new one.
> This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A > little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, > confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and > stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor > life.
> She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 > range for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business.
> So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field > winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would > account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped > splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery > revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field > winding tested continuous.
> Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining the > damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at Radio > Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing to > relatively good health.
> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot > simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
> Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've > fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and keep > encouraging her to buy a new one.
> This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A > little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, > confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and > stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor life.
> She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 range > for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business.
> So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field > winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would > account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped > splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery > revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field winding > tested continuous.
> Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining the > damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at Radio > Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing to > relatively good health.
> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot > simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
Well done!
If you dont want to keep fixing this one....take a look on ebay, decent used units can be had for a good price.
btw are you sure the g/f is that concerned about a vacuum? and might that be happier with a "vacuumer"? :)
for some reason my wife really likes it when I vacuum, maybe cuz she can't hear me talking?
> Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've > fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and keep > encouraging her to buy a new one.
> This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A > little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, > confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and > stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor life.
> She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 range > for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business.
> So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field > winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would > account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped > splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery > revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field winding > tested continuous.
> Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining the > damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at Radio > Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing to > relatively good health.
> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot > simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
On Nov 3, 12:36 pm, Smitty Two <prestwh...@earthlink.net> wrote:
May seem like a small thing but one senses the pride of an achievement. And that's what do it your self is all about. Well done. As long as a repair is safe; and in addition to saving the cost of a new vacuum, not helping fill up the landfill with the existing one and having the satisfaction of returning something to service.
Our vacuum is well over 40 years old and we even have a spare motor which we will probably never use!
But also importantly demonstrating that make-do and ability to cope attitude often missing in our high expectation throw-away society.
Keep at it and you will live more cheaply, will have greater confidence and ability to cope with life etc.
Smitty Two wrote: > Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've > fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and > keep encouraging her to buy a new one.
> This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A > little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, > confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and > stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor > life.
> She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 > range for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business.
> So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field > winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would > account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped > splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery > revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field > winding tested continuous.
> Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining the > damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at Radio > Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing to > relatively good health.
> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot > simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
Then there's the residual benefits. For example, I suspect you were a real stallion last night.
<jules.richardsonn...@remove.this.gmail.com> wrote: >On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:36:33 -0800, Smitty Two wrote: >> $1.69 plus tax at Radio Shack
>Was that seriously for the fuse? I didn't think RatShack sold anything >remotely *useful* these days.
One of my local Radio Shack not only has a crapload of *useful* stuff, they also have a guy who works there who knows how to use it--- and can explain it in English to a slacker like myself.
Jim [and just in case corporate bots usenet- it is store #01-1332 in Niskayuna, NY]
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:14:43 -0500, Jim Elbrecht wrote: > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:25:57 -0600, Jules > <jules.richardsonn...@remove.this.gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:36:33 -0800, Smitty Two wrote: >>> $1.69 plus tax at Radio Shack
>>Was that seriously for the fuse? I didn't think RatShack sold anything >>remotely *useful* these days.
> One of my local Radio Shack not only has a crapload of *useful* stuff, > they also have a guy who works there who knows how to use it--- and > can explain it in English to a slacker like myself.
Interesting - I thought all the better ones had long-gone (20 years or more ago) and they just did gadgets and gimmicks these days. Nice to know there's still at least one good one about.
My local one's crap, but thankfully Digikey aren't too far away and within driving distance if it were a real emergency.
Smitty Two wrote: > Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've > fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and keep > encouraging her to buy a new one.
> This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A > little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, > confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and > stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor life.
> She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 range > for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business.
> So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field > winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would > account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped > splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery > revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field winding > tested continuous.
> Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining the > damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at Radio > Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing to > relatively good health.
> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot > simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
You have a mind that is becoming more and more rare. I think religion and stupidity are winning.
I'll echo the others with "good job" Also, I don't see how any discussion about vacs could even remotely be considered OT --that's what this group is here for. Larry
> I'll echo the others with "good job" Also, I don't see how any > discussion about vacs could even remotely be considered OT --that's what > this group is here for. Larry
Gee, I just went through a vacuum cleaner repair saga, and didn't even call on the newsgroup. But then, I'm smarter than the average rabbit. I haven't been following the thread. Some snob doesn't like writing in for advice on repairing a home item as common as a vacuum cleaner?
Smitty Two wrote: > Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've > fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and keep > encouraging her to buy a new one.
> This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A > little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, > confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and > stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor life.
> She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 range > for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business.
> So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field > winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would > account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped > splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery > revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field winding > tested continuous.
> Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining the > damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at Radio > Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing to > relatively good health.
> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot > simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
I'm amazed at all the stuff that gets tossed because of a simple problem such as the one you repaired. I've acquired a lot of expensive computer motherboards that had a simple blown keyboard fuse that's the size of half a grain of rice. Most of the problems I find with malfunctioning consumer electronics is cold solder joints. I suppose you will be one of the survivors when the world goes to hell because you can keep technology going and won't be helpless and or hapless.
"Smitty Two" <prestwh...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining the > damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at Radio > Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing to > relatively good health.
> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot > simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
Very un-American of you. The proper thing to do is toss it in the trash and buy a new vacuum cleaner made in China. That is what 99.9% of Americans would have done.
> Smitty Two wrote: >> Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've >> fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and >> keep encouraging her to buy a new one.
>> This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A >> little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, >> confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and >> stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor >> life.
>> She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 >> range for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business.
>> So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field >> winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would >> account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped >> splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery >> revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field >> winding tested continuous.
>> Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining >> the damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at >> Radio Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing >> to relatively good health.
>> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot >> simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
> I'm amazed at all the stuff that gets tossed because of a simple > problem such as the one you repaired. I've acquired a lot of > expensive computer motherboards that had a simple blown keyboard > fuse that's the size of half a grain of rice. Most of the > problems I find with malfunctioning consumer electronics is cold > solder joints. I suppose you will be one of the survivors when > the world goes to hell because you can keep technology going > and won't be helpless and or hapless.
> TDD
But you deny yourself the opportunity to get the latest and greatest stuff that's even less reliable.
> > Smitty Two wrote: > >> Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've > >> fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and > >> keep encouraging her to buy a new one.
> >> This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A > >> little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, > >> confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and > >> stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor > >> life.
> >> She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 > >> range for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business.
> >> So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field > >> winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would > >> account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped > >> splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery > >> revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field > >> winding tested continuous.
> >> Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining > >> the damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at > >> Radio Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing > >> to relatively good health.
> >> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot > >> simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
> > I'm amazed at all the stuff that gets tossed because of a simple > > problem such as the one you repaired. I've acquired a lot of > > expensive computer motherboards that had a simple blown keyboard > > fuse that's the size of half a grain of rice. Most of the > > problems I find with malfunctioning consumer electronics is cold > > solder joints. I suppose you will be one of the survivors when > > the world goes to hell because you can keep technology going > > and won't be helpless and or hapless.
> > TDD
> But you deny yourself the opportunity to get the latest and greatest > stuff that's even less reliable.- Hide quoted text -
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I was at a luncheon of retired Bell Telephone Laboratories engineers and staff today, and we discussed the fact that many of our telephone office switches that were designed for at least a 40 year life are still going strong after 50 years. I can't image anything sold today, whether for home or office or any industry lasting more than 10 years.
>>> Smitty Two wrote: >>>> Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've >>>> fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and >>>> keep encouraging her to buy a new one. >>>> This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A >>>> little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, >>>> confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and >>>> stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor >>>> life. >>>> She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 >>>> range for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business. >>>> So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field >>>> winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would >>>> account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped >>>> splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery >>>> revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field >>>> winding tested continuous. >>>> Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining >>>> the damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at >>>> Radio Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing >>>> to relatively good health. >>>> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot >>>> simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff. >>> I'm amazed at all the stuff that gets tossed because of a simple >>> problem such as the one you repaired. I've acquired a lot of >>> expensive computer motherboards that had a simple blown keyboard >>> fuse that's the size of half a grain of rice. Most of the >>> problems I find with malfunctioning consumer electronics is cold >>> solder joints. I suppose you will be one of the survivors when >>> the world goes to hell because you can keep technology going >>> and won't be helpless and or hapless. >>> TDD >> But you deny yourself the opportunity to get the latest and greatest >> stuff that's even less reliable.- Hide quoted text -
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> I was at a luncheon of retired Bell Telephone Laboratories engineers > and staff today, and we discussed the fact that many of our telephone > office switches that were designed for at least a 40 year life are > still going strong after 50 years. I can't image anything sold today, > whether for home or office or any industry lasting more than 10 years.
It's all in the quality of the components, especially electrolytic capacitors.
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:42:27 -0800, hr(bob) hofm...@att.net wrote: > I was at a luncheon of retired Bell Telephone Laboratories engineers > and staff today, and we discussed the fact that many of our telephone > office switches that were designed for at least a 40 year life are > still going strong after 50 years.
Old phone stuff's just awesome like that. One of my phones is over 60 years old and as of two years ago was still working happily hooked up to the UK network (it's been in storage since then - I'll get it shipped over to the US at some point, but I'm not sure if I stand a chance of it working on the US network)
The Daring Dufas wrote: > Smitty Two wrote: >> Hey, it's a home appliance, so it's almost home repair. Anyway I've >> fixed my girlfriend's aging vacuum three times in three years, and >> keep encouraging her to buy a new one.
>> This weekend's episode concerned the motor that drives the brush. A >> little VOM work confirmed voltage was reaching the motor leads, >> confirming switch and wiring integrity. As a double-check I cut and >> stripped the wires and got out the suicide cord. No sign of motor life.
>> She went on the internet and started pulling up prices in the $120 >> range for a new motor. Sheesh. I'm in the wrong business.
>> So I took the motor apart. A quick ohmmeter check showed the field >> winding to be open, but I sure didn't see any damage to it that would >> account for it being open. I decided to take a look at the crimped >> splices that connect the magnet wire to the leads, and my surgery >> revealed a little thermal fuse. The fuse tested open, the field >> winding tested continuous. >> Maybe I shot myself in the foot, because now I'm stuck maintaining the >> damn thing for a while longer. But anyway, $1.69 plus tax at Radio >> Shack, and an hour's work is all it took to restore the thing to >> relatively good health.
>> I love simple stuff. I'm glad I have the experience to troubleshoot >> simple stuff and the tools and the time to fix simple stuff.
> I'm amazed at all the stuff that gets tossed because of a simple > problem such as the one you repaired. I've acquired a lot of > expensive computer motherboards that had a simple blown keyboard > fuse that's the size of half a grain of rice. Most of the > problems I find with malfunctioning consumer electronics is cold > solder joints. I suppose you will be one of the survivors when > the world goes to hell because you can keep technology going > and won't be helpless and or hapless.
For the last 4 or 5 years I've been using a scrapped mother board. Wish I could get my hands on newer ones more often.
My vacuum cleaner is also a freebie. I spotted a pc in a guys garage and asked if he is throwing it out, he said "not if you want it". Then he asked me if I want a vacuum cleaner that "sort of works". Sure! I replaced the brush belt and it works great. With the old PC's I often fix em' up and give them away. Poor college kids like them just as a word processor. Ha, remember them? Word processors?
In article <pan.2009.11.03.20.25.57.401...@remove.this.gmail.com>,
Jules <jules.richardsonn...@remove.this.gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:36:33 -0800, Smitty Two wrote: > > $1.69 plus tax at Radio Shack
> Was that seriously for the fuse? I didn't think RatShack sold anything > remotely *useful* these days.
Seriously it was. I found the part number on the RS website, and called my local store to check availability. They had just one in stock so I asked him to put my name on it and keep it by the register.
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