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I have no doubts regarding Black & Decker (who by the way, recently bought Porter tools). I'll never again give B&D or any of their other brands such as Dewalt my hard earned money in exchange for their garbage.
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> I have no doubts regarding Black & Decker (who by the way, recently bought > Porter tools). I'll never again give B&D or any of their other brands such > as Dewalt my hard earned money in exchange for their garbage.
>> I have no doubts regarding Black & Decker (who by the way, recently >> bought >> Porter tools). I'll never again give B&D or any of their other brands >> such >> as Dewalt my hard earned money in exchange for their garbage.
> Maybe some day they will be 'too big to fail'.
The bigger they are, the harder they fall...
Stanley used to be a good quality tool. Not pro quality, but more then enough for the average home owner. In recent years, Stanley has been selling plastic worthless made in China junk. One day I realized that of all the garden tools I had broken in recent years, all of them were Stanley, and so I stopped buying Stanley tools.
It's a sad day for B&D...but then, B&D hasn't been all that great in recent years, either.
Where do you go for good quality made in USA tools these days? Is there anyone left that makes good quality tools?
> The relation is that they both had good reputations years ago and they both > have cut quality.
Ain't that the sad truth. I keep a cheap set of tools at the office, so I don't cry too hard when an item grows legs, like they almost always do. Stanley used to be my first choice for 'good enough' for that application. I went to replace a few missing items a couple months back, and the Stanley screwdrivers and pliers now feel a whole lot cheaper than they used to. That is how I pick hand tools, if the store allows hefting individual tools, versus staring through the damn blister-pack. A good tool just looks and feels right, balances naturally, doesn't smell funny, etc. The only brand I have got that feel from lately is Klein. I'm sure there are other good brands out there, but the Klein mini-kit was a present to myself, to match some older items I got at a garage sale, well-scarred but still usable. (Trying to motivate myself to finish cleaning up the basement wiring...)
On Nov 3, 10:13 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> The relation is that they both had good reputations years ago and they both > have cut quality.
They cut quality to compete. Your average consumer doesn't give a hoot about quality. All they want is the cheapest price. If you can buy Brand X for 15 cents less than Stanley, they buy Brand X.
Stanley was losing market share to the China crap, so they started painting China crap yellow and selling it as Stanley for a cheaper price. It's the only reason they're still in business.
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